tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582815928673200669.post8460111302579069206..comments2023-04-04T06:59:59.644-07:00Comments on Traversing the Liminal: Jesus Male Chauvanist? - a repost, note the question mark LeahGF Girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01151041405670719917noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582815928673200669.post-48232329752293681752008-01-09T18:32:00.000-08:002008-01-09T18:32:00.000-08:00"Jesus' choice to integrally involve women in his ..."Jesus' choice to integrally involve women in his ministry"<BR/><BR/>i don't know that women were INTEGRAL in his ministry. there were twelve MALE apostles, and the only woman that remotely came to mind was priscilla (ooh, but don't forget her man-equivalent aquilla).....and that's only because i went to a christian high school and mr dueck was a great teacher. any other regular christian i bet has never heard of priscilla.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582815928673200669.post-17347515670469774612008-01-09T08:12:00.000-08:002008-01-09T08:12:00.000-08:00OK, to play devil's advocate, but not the devil wh...OK, to play devil's advocate, but not the devil who you may be expecting, I thought I'd ask some clarifying questions. <BR/><BR/>First, I think Jesus was by and large empowering to woman and for his particular culture was radical. But I guess the obvious question is that Jesus was still a male. So if it is a male doing the empowering, or "liberating," of woman couldn't that message still be construed as a fairly insidious form of patriarchy? The equation becomes woman needs man to help her out, enter male, woman is OK. Granted it can be argued Jesus was God, and therefore beyond sex or gender, but Jesus still took a male form. <BR/><BR/>Another question about what you wrote is the assumption of people being free post Jesus. What does that mean? Obviously you know of the various ways society has us chained in a mess of oppressive systems, either as oppressor or oppressed. In that context what does freedom mean? Is it purely spiritual, giving us respite from the ways in which we are chained? Or is it a practical throwing off of the shackles, a literal freeing of the prisoners and a literal feeding of the hungry? <BR/><BR/>Finally, where is the agency of the individual in this movement toward freedom? Is Jesus doing the freeing, as you suggest? What does that say about the individual's part in liberation? If you are purely dependent on Jesus for your freedom are you really free? <BR/><BR/>OK, I know these questions can't all be answered in a blog post, sorry, I just was curious about your opinion on whatever you feel like commenting on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582815928673200669.post-87129796539979340262008-01-09T04:33:00.000-08:002008-01-09T04:33:00.000-08:00Amen! :) I've always felt that the women surroundi...Amen! :) I've always felt that the women surrounding Jesus seemed stronger than the men who fled. They stayed by his side, of course they may have been safer from persecution than the men but still.<BR/>Good article!Sister Sassyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15579850974867756364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582815928673200669.post-30422471521311114312008-01-08T23:15:00.000-08:002008-01-08T23:15:00.000-08:00*phew. so you scared me there for one sec.*phew. so you scared me there for one sec.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com